08-18-2010 02:21 PM
I'm looking for CIFS documentation for HP-UX. In the past I'd head to http://docs.hp.com, but that redirects me to http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/D
While scanning down the page, I'm amused to see that the "Getting Started" section has around 100 hyperlinks in it, and the the first seven are for seven different versions of Distributed Systems Administration Utilities (DSAU). Thank Heavens I'm not a beginner: I'd be someone daunted by the suggestion that I might need to read DSAU to get started with 11.23.
Giving up with scanning down the page for CIFS, I try searching for CIFS and samba using my browser's search functionality. There are zero occurrences of CIFS and/or samba on the page. :(
I know there are some CIFS documents somewhere, because I used to read them on the http://docs.hp.com website. So, I reluctantly scroll up to the top of the page and search for CIFS in the entire business site. :(
Much better: 537 documents sorted by date. Hmm, this looks like an interesting document: "Setting Up CIFS Server (Samba) in an LDAP" with a date of 7-mar-2010. Someone must be creating some new white papers. Opening it,however, I see that its sole copyright date is 2000. (Am I correct in thinking that that means that the document hasn't been modified since then?) So, the date associated with the documents has no meaning. (In fact, in other searches, I've come across documents dated with the year 1980.)
Let's try a different approach: use the 'docs custom search has been turned off' search page: http://docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/search. Praise the Lord! I finally found the CIFS documents on http://docs.hp.com: http://docs.hp.com/en/5990-5097/index.html.
I'm thinking very evil thoughts right now towards the people responsible for moving docs.hp.com to the bizsupport website: you've made the live of an HP customer much more difficult.
Put another way, HP's Standards of Business Conduct (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGF
Sadly, I don't think that the new replacement for the docs.hp.com website meets the SBC's quality requirements.
In sum, it *really* irks me that the information that I used to be able to find on the docs.hp.com is no longer readily available.
Solved! Go to Solution.
08-18-2010 03:27 PM
At docs.hp.com, I look for CIFS information using the "I/O Cards and Networking Software" hyperlink, and follow that with the "HP-UX Networking Software" hyperlink, and then take the "HP-UX Common Internet File System (CIFS) Client/Server Software" hyperlink.
On the resulting page, the "Getting Started" section has release notes software released in the years 2002-2004 (but with a BSC date of feb-2010. (I was looking for Server release notes, but didn't find any :( )
In fact, on this page, the only documentation pertaining to CIFS Server talks about MS DFS. Where's the rest of the CIFS Server documentation?
08-18-2010 03:44 PM
Here's an example of a fantastic display of documentation: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/os84_index.html.
Note that each document is referenced only once; there aren't multiple hyperlinks for each version of the document. And if a document has been revised, there's a nice little, red 'Upgraded' note added to the document title. And there are both pdf and html versions of the documents.
Now, if I can only learn openVMS before the openVMS documents get moved over to BSC.
08-18-2010 11:19 PM
It seems like this is different enough.
Do you remember how you got to it before off of docs.hp.com? Was it with HP-UX?
If you use google for "HP CIFS", the only hits are in docs.hp.com, not the new BSC.
>HP employees have a "Passion for Customers."
I sure tried to let them know my concerns.
I'll pass your comments on.
08-19-2010 01:45 PM
I found this by going to the CIFS area via software.hp.com/go/softwaredepot
And then I went to the additional information link. Definitely not straightforward, but there it is.
08-20-2010 04:52 AM
Dennis' suggestion to have google search for CIFS server documents is right on, eg, "+site:docs.hp.com +CIFS +server". I hope that those documents continue to exist on the docs.hp.com website, even if I do have to use google to find them.
Here's another example of someone not doing due diligence: I was originally looking for the server release notes. I see on the software depot site for CIFS (https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayP
08-20-2010 08:56 AM
Before or after Patrick's reply?
>Patrick: It appears this is now in the I/O Cards and Networking Software section here:
Hmm, that kind of makes sense.
But the intermediate page with only "I/O Cards" isn't helpful. It makes you think you're in the wrong place and you might give up too soon.
I'll pass this along too.
08-20-2010 10:29 AM
As for combining the two, I think it makes sense to leave the two separate as one pertains to hardware and the other software.
09-13-2010 03:02 PM
I found the following quite amusing. I was looking for information on an R class server. http://docs.hp.com passed me on to BSC, where, following various links, I finally get to a list of documents with the usual sections "Getting Started", "Setup and Install", ...
In the "Getting Started" section for the R class server is one book, entitled "CIFS/9000 Client Release Note, June 2002."
I couldn't help but laugh when I saw CIFS pop up.
There are no documents on R class servers in the BSC list of manuals for R class servers. Fortunately, a google search of +site:docs.hp.com wins out. (I wonder if I can wget all the docs off of docs.hp.com before they disappear ... )