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HP Compaq nx9010 and Windows 98

I've got a problem installing Windows 98SE on Hp Compaq nx9010. You probably wonder why I want to install Win98, I understand that.
The problem is that I have to run complex programs over Netware in DOS, that is only compatible with Win9x.

My problem is regarding installing the Windows98, I get a bluescreen in the en phase of the install, during detection and installation of plugnplay devices. I get a Windows bluescreen, and I have to pull the power cord to shut it down. This happens every time, and I cant get further with my install. Any suggestions?
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Tor:

Since you're having problems, I would upgrade the BIOS from http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqnk/us/locate/64_5599.html
even though that's a WINXP section.

Then I would turn off 'Plug and Play O/S' in the BIOS. This should force the motherboard/BIOS to do most of the hardware configuration, leaving very little for WIN98 (which is very old relative to the hardware)to do in that respect.

If that doesn't help, let us know.

Also, if the bluescreen contains information, please post it here. Thanks.

Roger
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Tor: you must give more complete information if you want a real help.
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Hi again,
a small update.

The Bluescreen error message says: - this is in norwegian so it wont make any sence to you. The error code unless is: 0028:FF02CB3B (this is the first one) Now i should press ctrl-alt-del and then the machine freeze. Now i can see that it freezes on the ACPI Embedded controller setup.
I downloaded the new BIOS wich is the same that i had. Where do i disable PnP? Cannot find it. Sorry.
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In English the bluescreen usually says:

A fatal exception XY has occurred at xxxx:xxxxxxxx

You have given us the xxxx:xxxxxxxx but not the XY which is the critical component.

If you have the XY then you can use

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q150314

to find out what it is complaining about.

Ron

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Re: HP Compaq nx9010 and Windows 98

I had the same problem and searching the Internet, asking HP for help and anything else didn??t work.

Anyway, I found a solution for the problem. I'll make it public on http://www.adegn.dk

Have a look - and tell me if it worked.

Best regards

Anders Degn
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Hi! You Are absolutely right, Ron.
The fault is: 0e - I found the error on Microsoft's support pages, but it did'nt help. Still stops at the acpi installation. Even though i told it to skip that part.

Davs Anders. I did'nt find the page you specified on your homepage. I'd be glad to have a look at your tip.

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So, I finished my work on the site. Please let me know if it works with your computer...

http://www.adegn.dk

Best regards

Anders Degn
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Thank you Anders! This works, now its just for me to find the correct drivers. Can I ask you what graphic driver you used?
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Hej Tor,

You need the RS200 graphics driver. I'll link it on my site.

/Anders
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Hi Anders.
Can you send me the files that you attached on your page ?
- RS200_GART9X
- ALI4.INF
- a4agp.zip
I tryed download but i can`t acess to the files.
Zeittt@hotmail.com
Thanks
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I'm sorry. That will not be possible. I'll never get 110MB stuffed into a hotmail-mailbox... Two of the files are now available at my site again. The 107MB-File is an external download.

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Anders Degn
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Anders' Web page is great, unfortunately there is no BASE5.CAB in my C:\WINDOWS\CATOOT folder.

The only file in that folder is CALATLOG3.CAB so I tried deleting that instead but this did not solve the issue.

Actually SETUP hangs with BSOD during setup of plug and play devices and my FATAL EXCEPTION OE occurs at 0028:FF02847B... usually, sometimes it is 0028:FF01015B, sometimes 0028:FF131BB, and often FATAL EXCEPTION 06 at 00CE:0000003C. I even had FATAL EXCEPTION 0D once. As you can see I have been at this for a while with no luck.

Maybe I should ask HP for a full-blown BIOS setup disk that lets me disable USB2.0?
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Sorry about the spelling errors in my previous post. I meant C:\WINDOWS\CATROOT and CATALOG3.CAB.

Also a question for Roger, how do you manage to turn off plug and play detection in BIOS? HP seems to only have given customers a trimmed down version of BIOS setup that does not allow us to disable Plug and Play (or disable USB2.0 either).
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Squiggle:

It was wishful thinking on my part. I thought that option might exist in the BIOS Setup program. Sorry!

Roger
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Anders' web site recommends deleting EC.SYS which did nothing for me but when I also deleted ACPI.SYS then I was able to complete the setup.

Of course now device mananger shows a "yellow bang" re ACPI and installing the driver Anders kindly provides results in

"ALi 101 Power Management Controller Properties...

Windows could not load the driver for this device because the computer is reporting two ACPI.SYS bus types. (Code 2.)

Contact your computer manufacturer to get an updated BIOS for your computer."
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Re: HP Compaq nx9010 and Windows 98

Im have a nx9005, and having the same problem. removing ec.sys and base5.cab helped to finish the setup of win98se, but after that i'm stumped.

when i add the driver for the ali7101, all other devices are found, but when it starts to reboot, it fails again, and windows disabled the acpi-controller. And all devices are gone again.

is there someone out there with a working ec.sys? I've tried the millenium version, but that one gives the same problem.

Anyone has another hint for me?
thnx, alexander
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I have the same problem at the nx9005
removing ec.sys and base5.cab helped to finish the setup of win98se or win me.

when i add the driver for the ali7101,other devices are found,only standaard display

i hope some one can help me

Hans Hendriks
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Been exactly in the same situation with what is basically the same machine, sold under the Compaq Presario 2585 name. I've fought my way to a more or less working W98SE by myself before fiding Anders' site. Mostly doing the same kind of hacks: disabling everything related to ACPI in MACHINE.INF and BIOS.INF, changing to SUBSYS_080103C in several drivers' INF files.
At this point my only remaining problems are that I need to keep the Firewire and the 3rd USB (the USB2.0) controller devices disabled, else Windows hangs/spontenously reboots when starting. Even the VIA driver that Anders gives a link to doesn't solve this.
Have you people managed to have Firewire and the USB2.0 device up?
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A few more issues that I would like to know if you people who've been doing a fresh install using Anders's instructions have as well:

- no ACPI support at all, which -I presume- is to be expected: this means no power off when the Windows is shut down, display brightness control keys don't work etc.

- machine resets itself whenever I try enabling either of the IEEE1394 (Firewire) or USB 2.0 devices in the device manager (even with the proper VIA USB driver installed). So I have to keep both disabled

- more annoying: infrared device is not detected at all. I've tried numerous forced installation with no success. Since the .INF file in the ALi IR driver has the device path as a ACPI-something or PNP-something instead of a physical path (PCI\VEN_xxx ...) this is not quite a surprise

(Actually I have a dual boot config with W2K Pro installed to, and W2K doesn't detect it either, which is even more annoying. Yes I've flashed the latest BIOS)

What's the situation on your own machine regarding these points?
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Re: HP Compaq nx9010 and Windows 98

I have the same problem on my nx9005. Are there any solutions to this problem?, i need to run win 98.
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Oscar:

Forget it.
It is bound to be similar to my nx9010.
ATi won't help you because the graphics chip has been modified by HP, and HP won't help you because they only support XP & 2000. i spent about 40 hours trying. i am very tempted to by a locally built non-corporate laptop in future because of these limitations and also because HP quality control and service is laughable.
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Well, this may not be so hopeless. Refering to my last posting above, the infrared problem has been resolved almost miraculously by going to the BIOS setup and loading all defaults, then forcing a h/w detect. Now the infrared port works both in W98SE and W2K. Of course, it's slow and reliable under W98SE but that's true for every kind of infrared port under W98SE (in my experience).

I'm left with the other remaining problems:
- no ACPI, thus no self power-off, no power management at all and more annoyingly no display brightness control (too dark for my eyes when running on batteries)
- no Firewire (IEEE 1394) port (disabled because it crashes Windows)
- no USB 2.0 port (same)

Apart from that, my W98SE installation is stable, with all display modes & acceleration on, sound, LAN & built-modem working.
I've found the needed drivers here and there.
The web page mentioned in a posting above definitely is *the* place to start. It has links to all (or almost all) drivers.
I can give links to the ones I use, or send them upon request.
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Re: HP Compaq nx9010 and Windows 98

Hello,

I have exactly the same problem with my Evo N1050v (blue screen with 0E fatal error during plug'n'play detection while windows 98 is installing).

I don't know if everyone has solved their problems, but I know that Alain Fauconnet has a working installation.

The Ander's site is down so, I'll very happy if you could help me to make my installation of win 98se working (sorry for my bad english...).

Thank's in advance.
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Re: HP Compaq nx9010 and Windows 98

My site is definately still up and working at www.adegn.dk.

And my Win98SE Installation is running well too.

Best regards
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