03-10-2010 01:25 AM
I need your advice. I have SAN and several servers such as: two rx6600, one EVA 4400 and 4 DL360 G5. Each of them has 2 power supplies. I read documentation for rx, dl and eva. There are typical and max power's value. I'd like to determine how many watts they are use. Because my UPS arent powerful and after determine i want to suggest my chief to buy new UPS for fail-safety, or won't.
are there any command or special ways to determine?
regards and thanks,
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03-10-2010 01:29 AM
Check below thread.
03-10-2010 01:31 AM
If your curren UPS is a "smart" one, then you should be able tp find out from his user interface (most of them have an http interface...) how much current draw your servers/SAN/EVA from that UPS.
Compare it with the nominal/maximal values of your UPS and decide if this UPS is good for the job or not.
03-10-2010 02:00 AM
Yesterday we didnt have electricity for ~5 minutes. UPS shut down, naturally servers, switches, and EVA shut down also. I didnt start up, coz first want to solve problem with UPS and power consumption in our data-center. Ok, as i read in other thread it is possible check through the MP>CM>PS but right now before startup all hardware, want to discuss with my chief.
1.rx6600 consumes min 998watt and max 1633watt. Average = 1315.5, for 2 servers will be 2631watt=2,63 KW.
2. I dont know DL360 G5's power consume but guess 1000 watt. For server 4000Watt=4KW
3. I dont know EVA 4400(disk arrays, dual managment and SAN switch)'s power consume, guess probably 3-4 KW
Total will be average - 10-11 KW. We have just 2 UPS - http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techs
regards and thanks,
03-10-2010 02:11 AM
Also, a SNMP card would be great - you can find out a lot of stuff from there (temperature, voltage/amperage, estimated time...) and also would give you the possibility to shutdown the servers before your battery will be dead.
03-10-2010 04:35 AM
no, we dont have this pack.
We have this card but i dont have cable to connect. We have cable for connect through the com-port. But it doesnt work yet.
03-10-2010 06:11 AM
You can gather all the power info generally from the vendor's site regarding what power is required for each device.
One thing to remember is that all devices spike when they power up. After that, the device generally settles down on it's power demand to about half of what the power-up need is. BUT...always use the power-up (highest possible need) when configuring or calculating watt requirements.
The first thing you need to determine on scaling an UPS is how long you expect it to run and support devices. Figure out over last 1-5 years how much power disruption you've had; and how long they were. In other words, get what you likely will need. [Remember though - nobody has a crystal ball. It's strictly best guess based on history.]
Determine what hardware MUST be on UPS and build your watt chart for this. Remember to include things like - the admin's 1 workstation, in event of outage to be able to control things should power be down too long. You want to be able to control bringing things down if you have to. Cover for HPUX/Windows/Network
Account for every piece of absolute need hardware (HPUX/Windows/Network....??).
Once you have this info, then discuss your findings with the UPS vendor. They can best help scale what you need. But do your research so you don't get oversold!
....I don't know your data center, but while you're getting the power info you might want to add to your document the weight of "everything". Cause an UPS is battery loaded....and we are talking significant pounds on floor. Make sure your floor/structure can take the load! Make sure you can get it in the building!
One other option, smaller/shorter time on UPS with a generator behind it for longer term outages. Might be worth presenting for both options & let mgmt decide.
03-10-2010 05:50 PM
03-11-2010 11:48 PM
You know, this require a simple straight ethernet cable (UTP). This is a pretty common cable in IT industry.
03-14-2010 10:13 PM
i discussed with my chief and he is agree to buy new UPS. But for now, i dont know what kind of UPS buy, i mean how many watt's it must be. I havent turned on my servers yet, coz afraid they will turn off again and it could crash OS or applications which run there. I read documentation for each server but still dont know surely - how many their are consume?
thanks and regards,
03-16-2010 02:25 AM
- for DL360 G5 server from documentation(HP Bulletin) and it is 650 watts * 4 servers = 2.6 kw
-for rx6600 typical power dissipation is 998 watts and max is 1.7 kw
- i didnt how to calculate for EVA4400 - dual controller, disk array(10 hdd) and etc
- switch and hub
I cant check through the UPS, coz it's impossible to connect EVA with UPS through com-port. Any idea?
03-26-2010 02:44 AM
If you do not have problems with power utility you can switch on the UPX/servers without fear that the UPSes would be overloaded. The UPSese does not connect the inverter if the power utility is in normal parameters.
About applications: You could simply not start those in order to get some information about who much power do you need for your system.
>I cant check through the UPS, coz it's impossible to connect EVA with UPS through com-port
What do you mean? The UPS has an ethernet port which you must connect on your LAN's switch. From your LAN, go to one stations where you have an internet browser, and open the address of your SNMP card.