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navin
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IA and PA

What is the main difference that i can explain to my client ..about difference between IA and PA.
please advice
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Pete Randall
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Re: IA and PA

The main difference is that support will eventually be withdrawn for PA - in 2013, I believe, when 11iv1 and 11iv2 go off support.


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Duncan Edmonstone
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Re: IA and PA

well the main difference is that P comes seven letters in the alphabet after I... but somehow I'm sure thats not what your driving at!

In the world of HP-UX, IA usually inidicates IA64 while PA usually denotes PA-RISC - two different CPU architectures.

IA64 is an EPIC CPU architecture, whereas PA-RISC is a RISC CPU architecture. Wikipedia does a reasonable job of explaining the difference:

RISC - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risc
EPIC - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explicitly_Parallel_Instruction_Computing

As far as HP-UX is concerned, PA is the past and IA is the future - without knowing specifically what you want to compare its difficult to explain in more detail than that.

HTH

Duncan

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A. Clay Stephenson
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Re: IA and PA

Well, the main difference is that PA is reaching end of life and IA isn't. Now the good news is that well-written, well-designed applications don't care on which platform they run --- and the user shouldn't be able to tell the difference although the IA is going to be noticeably faster in almost all cases. Data files can be moved from one platform to the other (assuming that the application binaries didn't "improve" alignment and packing).

Some of the "gotcha's" includes PA_RISC legacy code that has not been ported (and never will be) to IA. The Aries emulator goes a long way toward satisfying that request although there will be a performance hit on that portion of the code that is CPU-bound. Even in those cases, the IA hardware may be so much faster than the older PA-RISC hardware that the performance impact may be negligible.

This is really one of those pay-me-now or pay-me-later situations because eventually PA-RISC will be obsolete. The only cases where I would not recommend IA these days are extremely computationally intensive applications which have not been ported to IA.
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Torsten.
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Re: IA and PA

The main difference between a PA- and a IA-platform is the CPU.

PA-RISC systems are using HP-PA CPUs (e.g. HP PA-8900), Integrity systems are using Intels Itanium 2 chip (e.g. Montecito or Tukwila in the future).

On some servers (e.g. rp4440 and rx4640) this is the only difference (together with an appropriate firmware).

Of course a different CPU needs different code to work. HP-UX 11i v2 and v3 has the bits optimized either for PA-RISC or Itanium (both on the same DVD set).

Hope this helps!
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Steven E. Protter
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Re: IA and PA

Shalom,

The primary business issue is that HP has pulled the plug on PA-RISC and stopped development.

They have cut prices on Itanium and pushed it hard. The boxes can run Windows or Linux in addition to HP-UX.

It's tough to justify bucks, especially big bucks on PA-RISC, a dead end platform.

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Glenn S. Davidson
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Re: IA and PA

HP has announced the the Intel Architecture (Itanium) is their future and will phase out the RISC servers. They have combined their OS with 11.23 so it will run on either platform.

My guess if that RISC hardware will be around long enough for all software and software manufacturers to get used to that idea and certify their products and then we will really see it start declining.

I have advised all my clients, if they want to stay with HP hardware to start moving away from RISC hardware and start adopting Itanium hardware, if their software will support it. If their software isn't supported then just go with a hardware upgrade if it's cheaper than buying a new server (sometimes it is). This will give their software company more time and keep their hardware more current.
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