Vectra 400 VL SF - working DVD-/CD-RW-Combo hiding in BIOS (63 Views)
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stephan_17
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Vectra 400 VL SF - working DVD-/CD-RW-Combo hiding in BIOS

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Hi all,

i just got a used vectra 400 VL SF - that one with a slimline-CDdrive,
and want to make all new. HD is just lowlevel formated, and before installing the os, i replaced the original drive Mitsumi with a combodrive DVD/CD-RW- (TEAK).

Now i saw, that the new combodrive is not listed in the bios, not as IDE, not as anything else - eventhough the drive is working!
I tested it with a Knoppix Live CD. The old Mitsumi drive was regulary checked
as ide-drive, i could normaly boot from that drive. The combo-drive is completly hidden.

In order to that, it`s not possible to boot from the new drive. The only way to boot from CD actually for me is to start from a bootable CD Loader Floppy*, that starts directly the bootprocedere from the CD-Drive directly.
That indicates too, that the new drive is somehow working.

I updated my BIOS to IP.01.08 (without any faults) and tested default- and
optimezed settings. I tried all possible boot-orders, always the same result:
the combodrive is always hiding, booting from floppy or from HD works.

As far as i see, there are no jumpers on the drive, for jumpering it as master or slave or cableselect...so i don`t know, how it`s really configured. I red in hp`s manual, that cable-select jumpersettings are necessary.
The original Mitsumi drive has no jumpers as well, so, i think it might worlk in default.

What could i do, to get the drive bootable,
and that it is shown in BIOS ?

Thanks for reading :)

Stephan

*Bootable CD Loader:
http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/index_d.htm

 

 

 

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Ron Kinner
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Re: Vectra 400 VL SF - working DVD-/CD-RW-Combo hiding in BIOS

Which model TEAC do you have? I've never seen an IDE that didn't have the CS MA SL jumpers somewhere. The exception would be the little skinny drives that don't even have a power connection. These use a special cable and perhaps even a non standard IDE connection. Look on the TEAC site and it should tell you how to set the jumpers:

http://www.teac.com

Example: http://www.teac.com/DSPD/pdf/dvr0070a.pdf

Page 12.

It is true that your Vectra used Cable Select. Most replacement CDs come with the jumpers set to either MA or SL - I forget which so you would normally have to reset the jumpers.

Did you try plugging it into the secondary position on the primary IDE?


Ron
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Re: Vectra 400 VL SF - working DVD-/CD-RW-Combo hiding in BIOS

Hi Ron,

it`s the Teak DW-224E-A, usualy designed for Notebooks. I`m using it with the original IDE-(PCMIA?)-Adapter that was originaly used in the Vectra. It is the Adapter from MITSUMI - maybe that one supports MITSUMI Products only?? That could be a explanation for that strange situation. And the drive has definately no jumpers to set. And yes - the cable is connected with Mainbaords IDE 2, on IDE 1 is the Harddisk. And, as mentioned above, the drive works pretty good - exept booting :)

I will check TEAC`s Page tommorow (or better later on..), maybe i could fish further hints.
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stephan_17
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Re: Vectra 400 VL SF - working DVD-/CD-RW-Combo hiding in BIOS

Hi,

here is my little update...no success yet.

Now I have installed Windows and the Drive works.
But in BIOS and on the startmenue it is not listed
as Drive or something else.

There are some informations about the Combodrive TEAC DW-224E-A:

http://www.teac.com/DSPD/DW224E.html

I red the .pdf-manual too, and talked to user`s helpdesk of TEAC.
They acknowledged: this drive has got no jumpers to set, they do
only offer a firmware-flash from master to slave - but that would
not be my solution, they were said. And they haven`t heard such a
problem ever before. They informed me about a Tool called Nero Tools,
that is able to read out, where and how the Drive is mounted in a
system. I will check it later on.

Meanwhile i tested that drive with an another computer,
that uses slimline-drives too (Fujitsu ErgoPro) - and the
drive was checked in BIOS normaly.

So the problem is somewhere in Vectras area,
that`s for sure, it might have to do with the BIOS, i think.
Maybe it is a generaly problem - but what can i do ?

Bugreport to HP ?
Which systemdates are required for that case ?
And where i had to send it to ?

tks

Stephan

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Ron Kinner
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Re: Vectra 400 VL SF - working DVD-/CD-RW-Combo hiding in BIOS

I suspect the Mitsumi adapter is the problem. No telling what it does. I thought you were plugging into a normal IDE box. Could also be that the BIOS only likes Mitsumi. Doubt that HP cares whether it works or not. Vectras are pretty much extinct as far as they are concerned.

Is this similar to the mitsumi adapter?

http://www.baber.com/baber/products/slimline_cd_adapter.htm


Ron
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stephan_17
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Re: Vectra 400 VL SF - working DVD-/CD-RW-Combo hiding in BIOS

Hi,

yes, quite right, it`s very similar to the adapter you`ve linked. And it`s a Mitsumi-Product - so it would be no miracle, if this one does support Mitsumi drives only.

Maybe I should try to get another adapter and test it.
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