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HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

Hello everyone,

 

I am wondering what is the best practice to integrate HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05.  Should 1. uCMDB configured to do a data push to BSM or 2. should BSM be configured to either populate the RTSM based on the uCMDB data?

 

If it is one, does that means I do not need to configure the data flow probe from BSM, because I will use the uCMDB one?

 

If it is two, does that means I need to configure the data flow probe for BSM?

 

Is there a way to use the same data flow probe for BSM and uCMDB?  My guess is no, but I want to confirm...

 

I have read a couple of the BSM manuals, but they are not always clear in the distinction of uCMDB and BSM's RTSM.  This cause confusion.

 

Thanks for the help,

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

Sync between BSM and CMDB should always be done in option 2 (BSM pulls from CMDB).

This means you need DFP to BSM and Sync TQLs on CMDB.

No, you cannot use the same probe for both BSM and CMDB (in the probe config you specify the server it is connected to).

Let me know if you need more info.

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

Thank you Asaf for your quick answer.

 

I actually have one more question:

 

Because we have both BSM RTSM DB and uCMDB and NNMi, NA, DDMA and OMW will send data to uCMDB, should we use population or federation.  I am afraid that population will generate a lot of communication  (and network traffic) between RTSM and uCMDB.

 

Because uCMDB is the full blown version, it seems logical that NNMi, NA, DDMA and OMW send the information over there, but I am wondering if it should also (or only) send the data to RTSM, or use population/federation.

 

We (the company) have very long term goal for this software and want to make sure we are doing the implementation the best way possible.

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

I have few comments:
1) the best practice is to connect OMW and NNMi topology to RTSM and then sync that topology to CMDB. the reason is near-real-time update.
2) sync topology from RTSM to CMDB is the same as CMDB to RTSM, but this means you will need 1 DFP for each server
3) in general, you should have CIs in CMDB only if there is a consumer for them. if nobody is going to use those CIs, then why do you want them in CMDB?
4) dont be affraid from reconciliation. if RTSM/CMDB got CIs from different sources, it will be reconciled and you will have just 1 instance.
5) you should prefer population (at least into the RTSM). if those CIs are going to be used in ServiceHealth/OMi/SLM/etc. then federation will actually cause more overload on the system. federation should be used for "ad-hoc" queries, but if the CI is used all the time then you should populate it into RTSM.

let me know if you need more info.
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Wow, this is really good information. I gave you one Koodo for each post.

Although I am very familiar with NNMi and OMW, I am new to the Mercury stuff. This information will help me get started.

Thanks a lot.
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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

Hi Experts,

 

I am currently trying to integrate BSM 9.13 with CMS 9.05 as well, and the missing point I am confused here is that which version of Data Flow Probe should I install to connect with BSM 9.13? There is no Data Flow Probe installer on BSM 9.13 patch (http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/KM1400962 / http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/KM1414243)

 

Seeing from the http://<BSM_Server>:21212, it is stated that the version of the RTSM is 9.04. So, should I download the Data Flow Probe from the CMS 9.04 Service Pack (http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/KM1233779)?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Cheers,

Charles L

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

Compatibility details should be in the probe guide. When you download the probe, the guide comes along with it. Few methods to download probe

 

1. Self solve>choose Universal CMDB (Application Mapping) as product and select patches and hut the search button and the service pack download that comes up should have the probe in it

2. openview site>Downloads>My software>My software updates - downloads choosing your SAID

 

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration


Charles L. wrote:

Seing from the http://<BSM_Server>:21212, it is stated that the version of the RTSM is 9.04. So, should I download the Data Flow Probe from the CMS 9.04 Service Pack (http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/KM1233779)?


The probe version depends on the direction of integration between BSM and UCMDB. For integration from BSM to UCMDB you need DFP 9.05 because it must belong to UCMDB. For integration from UCMDB to BSM you need DFP 9.04 because it must belong to BSM. Never use DFP installation files from UCMDB media for BSM and vice versa!

 

I don't know why you cannot find DFP that was released with BSM 9.13 patch. It's available on the HP Support site - http://support.openview.hp.com/selfsolve/document/KM1402065

 

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

Hi Sujith  and Dimtry,

 

Thanks for the prompt reply. I searched with the wrong keyword, "Data Flow Probe". Should have done it with its former name, "Discovery Probe".

 

Cheers,

Charles L

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

Hi All,

 

Can BSM 9.20 integrate with UCMDB 10.20?

If yes then which BSM DFP should be used?

 

Thanks in advance!

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

why are you using BSM9.20 and not later version like 9.24 or 9.25?

yes, you can sync topology from CMDB10.20 to BSM9.2x using PULL or PUSH if you use BSM9.24 or later.

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

>>>Can BSM 9.20 integrate with UCMDB 10.20?

 

Yes. But you don't want to use BSM 9.20 that is 2 years old, do you?

 

>>>If yes then which BSM DFP should be used?

 

First tell which direction you want to integrate: BSM to UCMDB or UCMDB to BSM.

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

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Thank you for the reply Asaf and Dmitry!

 

It is a test environment so we have not upgraded BSM to the latest version.

 

I want to pull data from UCMDB 10.20 to RTSM 9.05 so which DFP should be compatible with BSM 9.20?

 

Also, in this scenario does the DFP version depends on the UCMDB or BSM?

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Re: HP BSM 9.13 and HP uCMDB 9.05 integration

I want to pull data from UCMDB 10.20 to RTSM 9.05 so which DFP should be compatible with BSM 9.20?

Answer: if you want to connect the DFP to BSM then use the one that comes with the BSM installation bits. 

 

Also, in this scenario does the DFP version depends on the UCMDB or BSM?

Answer: start reading the previous answers before you ask the same question again and again. also try reading the RTSM Best Practices before asking "RTFM questions".

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